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On Saturday, October 9, WCiCW held a benefit show at the Legendary Hamburg Fieldhouse, in Hamburg, PA. The "Fight for Life" was held to help raise money to pay medical bills and treatments needed by the Barr family. The amount of talent that volunteered to work the show was quite impressive.

Unfortunately, due to WXW promoter Afa A'noai pulling several wrestlers off the show to work on his "elite 8" card (or so I was told), a number of wrestlers were unable to attend (due to the fact that the wrestlers that Afa pulled served as their rides from NY). The fact that anyone would deliberately try and hurt a benefit show is quite sad but it seems to be the nature of the business. If the "Elite 8" is to showcase women wrestling why is he pulling male talent off this show? Doc Diamond, who announced that he would be bringing Bam Bam Bigelow, showed up without his promised guest. Anyone knowing Doc was not surprised. Several wrestlers simply no showed with no notice or even the decency to contact anyone and inform them. In addition, the majority of the work of running the show was dumped into the promoter Terry's lap. The show was originally intended to be a surprise benefit FOR him and his wife and instead he became burdened with all the problems that come with running a professional wrestling card. Either way, Sidekick Ron, Frank and I came to not only support Terry and his wife but to see many friends whom we had not seen in years.

We arrived early to see if there was anything we could do to help. We had the pleasure of meeting up with long time friend Fred Richards whom we talked to in the parking lot (and reminisced about the old days) for quite some time.

Luminaries in attendance included Wrestling Clothesline contributor Joseph Velez Jr., Jay from Happauge, Fred Richards, Paul "Give it to heeem", Karen Belcher, Robin and Gryggs.

The show began a little after 7pm. The results saw:

Icharus and Shane Storm defeated the Wild Cards

Frankie V won a 4 Way Elimination Match for the WCiCW Women's Title. Luscious Lily, still suffering from the after effects of a fireball, pinned Telulah Mae (Belladonna). Debbie Sue (Psycho) defeated Lily. Frankie V pinned Debbie Sue. Thanks to the booking of Rockin Rebel, making a man the Women's Champion pretty much shows you how he feels about women in the business as it totally kills any credibility the belt could have.

Supreme Lee Great defeated J Busta w/ Officer Mercy

Matt Bombay defeated Dynamic Sensation, Bandido Jr, Din Mak, Devon War (we could not hear his name) and David Cole in an elimination match for the Lightheavyweight title. The referee for this match was the worst ref I have ever seen as he could not count to three, literally. The finish saw Matt Bombay screw up the "Final Cut" (Big Show's old finisher) and still get the pinfall.

The next match was announced as an 8 man Elimination Match. Two Bad Dudes (Tony Burma and Mason Raige), CJ O'Doyle and Cabby, The Soul Brothers, and Rockin Rebel and Greg Matthews all entered the ring. What looked like it would be a 4 team tag match soon became and 8 man tag match that had single eliminations AND the ONE winner received the Tag Team Titles. WHAT?? Not surprisingly, the match was the longest one of the night. (I wonder why?) and saw Greg Matthews win the tag titles after scoring the final pinfall. Rockin Rebel was eliminated when the referee pinned him. The entire match was your basic cluster%*#k.

Bandido and Warpath defeated Frankie Starz and Black Angel

Killer Kowalski Jr won a 20 man battle royal. After winning he challenged anyone in the back to face him. The Mest Brothers came to the ring.

The Mest Brothers defeated Killer Kowalski Jr. After the match the Mests continued to beat down Kowalski until Nikolai Volkoff made the save.

Nikolai Volkoff and Killer Kowalski Jr defeated the Mest Brothers in a tag match.

D Licious defeated New Wave, Chris Swan, and Lucky. Lucky was eliminated first. He was the lucky one as he didn't have to watch the rest of the match. LOL. Get it?

Kage defeated Justin Glory to win the WCiCW Heavyweight Title. Why is your Heavyweight Title match not on last?

The main event, for the CCW Tag Team Titles saw Max Havok and Damian Destruction face J Money and Rob Noxious. To be quite honest, by this time it was nearly 11pm. I had a 3.5 - 4 hour ride home and decided to call it quits.

The show ran quite long and a lot of fans did not come back after intermission. They looked to have somewhere between 100 and 150 people in attendance. How many of those were actually paying fans, I do not know. I do know that several wrestlers bitched and moaned to make sure they got numerous guests in for free. Why even bother volunteering to work a charity event if you are going to pull childish and immature crap like that?

I have the utmost respect for every single person who volunteered their time to work this show. I have no respect whatsoever for those who volunteered their time BUT upon arrival had ridiculous demands. Who the hell do you few think you are? Here's a clue. You are nobody. I mostly feel sorry for Terry who had to put up with the stress, aggravation, attempted sabotage by the other promoter, and numerous no shows. This show, which was not his idea in the first place, should never have been dropped into his lap. It was unfortunate and unnecessary and I hope that he at LEAST broke even. As long as the majority of the fans in attendance had a good time (and they seemed to have) and Terry didn't lose his shirt (not literally) then it was a success. The sheer amount of talent that did indeed show up shows you how much the wrestling world and the fans care for Terry!!

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The following comments are those of Luscious Lily in response to my recap of the show. As I have stated before I welcome ANYONE who wishes to refute anything I was told to feel free to do so and I would be more than happy to post it HERE, on MY SITE. I thank Lily for taking the time to write to me and thank her for showing her professionalism in bringing her concerns to ME and not by posting it, under fake names, on other sites.- Brett

"I first want to thank WrestlingClothesline.com and Mr. Schwan for allowing me this opportunity to correct some very disturbing information that he was provided and reported on regarding this past weekend's WCICW Cancer Benefit in Hamburg, PA.

It has been said/reported that Afa A’noai promoter and owner of WXW tried to sabotage the WCICW Cancer Benefit by pulling talent off of the show. This is not only a crazy accusation but completely untrue! Yes, both Mana the Polynesian Warrior and Bravado were originally scheduled to appear at the WCICW Cancer Benefit and instead appeared at WXW’s Elite 8 Tournament. Simply Luscious was also originally slated to appear at the Cancer Benefit and instead appeared at the Elite 8 Tournament. Afa did not pull anyone off of the show! I think the only promoters that can pull people off shows are Vince McMahon and Jeff Jarrett or whoever is running TNA. You know why that is? Because they’re under contract! The rest of us are independent contractors who make up our own minds about where we choose to appear. Simply Luscious, Mana and Bravado pulled themselves off the cancer benefit! As a matter of fact Mana had originally told Jaden, the person who started out running this benefit that he would do the benefit provided he was not needed at WXW. His participation was on a contingency basis. Afa merely offered them all spots on his show. Was it to try and undue the benefit. I’d swear on a bible and my life that it wasn’t! If Afa wanted to yank talent off the show in an attempt to sabotage the show then there would have been no woman’s match on the show as myself and the other 3 participants are all WXW talent. CJ O’Doyle and Cabbie are also WXW talent as is The Dynamic Sensation. If Afa was gonna yank talent to try and destroy the show, wouldn’t he have yanked all of his talent? Also it is my understanding that due to the fact that Bravado didn’t make the benefit show that others were unable to make the show because Bravado was their ride. Isn’t it the talents responsibility to make sure you can get to a show, and then if you don’t isn’t that nobody’s fault but your own?

It disheartens me greatly that Afa is being made out to look like an a$$hole in this situation. What some people may not realize is that WXW donated 4 ticket vouchers for their return show to the Silo in Reading on November 6th. that were to be auctioned off during the auction portion of the show. I know this for a fact because I hand delivered them to Mr. Barr on the day of the benefit. Does that sound like the actions of a company or a man trying to ruin a show or a cause?

I think it is sad and unfortunate that the cancer benefit did not raise more money for Terry and his family; however I don’t think Afa is to blame for any of it and I am personally appalled that he is being made to be one of the scapegoats in this! Anyone who knows Afa knows that he is a great family man and is always in support of a good cause! I’m not sure if there is a fault in the fact that the show wasn’t more successful as I know that this show was promoted to the best of the promoter’s ability. I do know that as reported this show started off being for Terry and being run by another person. Said other person then pulled out and dumped the entire show on Terry. Why are they not being the one blamed for any misfortunes of the benefit?" - Luscious Lily.

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Again, I thank Lily for her comments. As I stated in my recap, I was TOLD that Afa pulled talent off the show. At no time did I attempt to insinuate that this was fact which is why I said "or so I was told". I will however stand by my claims of certain wrestlers having a hissy fit about not being allowed to bring in numerous friends and guests as I saw all of that first hand. - Brett

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The following comments are those of Jaden who was one of the original organizers of the WCiCW event. The comments are those of Jaden and Jaden only. Again, anyone wishing to refute any claims made by anyone here is more than welcome to.- Brett

You know I am not a person to Trash people, I personally wanted to keep Quiet on this Whole Benefit show Fiasco but I guess my hand was forced and I have to tell people what really is going on in the "Real World" as appose to the Created one some people will have you Believe...

When Mike Lopez of Indymania ( www.indymania.com ) approached me about possibly doing a Benefit Show for Terry Barr, I was all for it.. I have personally lost members of my family to Cancer and Terry always seemed like a Nice guy who deserved a break so I though why not? Well now I know why.. From the moment I 1st sent out the Press Releases this Benefit has been nothing but a head ache.. My Fiancee Laura will attest that I worked my ass off just to try to make this show the Best Show Possible.. I got the Rings, the Building, and got countless websites to post about the show. I Wrote Press releases, Got the Building and the Talent for the show.. Terry Found out about the show shortly after I put out word that we possibly might be doing one.. He then started Helping me out on the show almost from day one.. I use the term Helping Out loosely because What He did was Make up the Webpage and tell me he has more workers for the show ( I think at last count they had over 100 ).. His Next Bit of "Help" was to secure the Serviceses of Robyn Griggs.. I don't know the woman personally but, she was in a couple Soap Opera's and a few B Movies.. Terry wanted to push her as the Feature attraction of the show, Way ahead of any of the Wrestlers who already agreed to do the show.. My g/f Laura, Who watched both of the Soaps she was on, Had no Idea who this woman was and yet She was who Terry wanted to push as the Main attraction to this show.. He swore that she was a star and would sell the place out ( this was our 1st of Many Disagreements about the show ).. I tried to tell him that if we push her a lot of the workers would get pissed and he replied " We Have No room for ego's on this show, Who do you think the Newspapers will talk about, a TV/Movie Star or some Wrestlers no one has ever heard of?".. To make matters worse she was not going to do anything on the show, Just sign Autographs at Intermission.. I finally Convinced him that it was not a good idea to push her so strongly so we got to or next Issue.. Apparently a Wonderful Woman Named Fantasia refused to allow her self and her Tag Team the Untouchabulz to work the show if "Primetyme" Amy Lee and Trixie were on the show and that it would be suicide to chose Amy and Trixie over her and her Team because they worked that building before and were "Local Draws".. Needless to say Terry did stick behind me on this one and we told this lovely lady that her services were not needed at the time ( I am sorry but this was a benefitit show and ego's were not going to be tolerated ).. Our next Issue is that the person who originally agreed to donate the use of their insurance stopped answering my e-mails so we got the rights to use the Rocking Rebel's Licensence and Insurance that he Graciously agreed to let us use at a discounted fee of $500 ( this also included the use of his Doctor).. Rebel ( who claims to be a good friend of Terrys ) also made sure to bring to my attentionton that he was working the show for Terry at No Extra Cost.. With that Taken care of the Building was secure and things were going well.. I then get an e-mail from a promoter that used the Hamburg Fieldhouse saying that using that building was basically an act of war ( even though the Filedhouse told me that they were not using that building any more for many reasons and were not welcomed Back ).. I used this as a way to Light a fire under Terry's ass and it became motivation for both of us to out draw that Promoter in this building.. Our next few altercations between me and Terry came when He was trying to find ways to spend money he didn't have.. He told me that starting the next WCICW show ( Not the one on October the 9th but the one after that ) that the WCICW will be a member of the AWA ( Dale Gagne's promotion )and all his show will be under the sanction of the American Wrestling Alliance.. He was Making Plans on Bringing their "World Champion" Evan Karagias to defend his title in the Future.. He claimed to have a few new buildings for Future shows.. I then switched my booking around to plan for future shows after the 9th of October was over.. He claimed that he worked out an agreement with CCW to promote his shows and in exchange CCW was going to take over the Fieldhouse after this show was over.. He also Claimed he was going to get the Insane Clown Posse to do the Benefit show since they are going to be in town the night before.. He Claimed that we would have to "Get a Bigger Building" to fit all the ICP fans and wanted to do a "Hells Pit" Interview Segment with them to set up the Main Event.. Again where he was getting Money to do either when he apparently didn't have enough money to pay his Medical bills is beyond me.. Things started to fall apart from there.. I was told by 3 people that Bam Bam Bigelow was going to be there and would Wrestle on the show so i booked Him against Mana.. All 3 people told me that Doc Told them that it was ok to add it to the webpage and that it was a Done Deal, 2 of the People were Dan O'Connellel ( Doc Diamond's Partner in the WWSA )and Doc's Own Wife.. The 3rd person asked not to be named in this letter but needless to say he is close to Doc.. So we advertise him with the Idea of Pushing WCICW ( with Mana ) v.s. WWSA ( with Bam Bam Managed by Doc ).. Well about a week before I was no longer involveded with the show I got a Message from Dan that Doc Said to them that he never said we had Bam Bam ( Dan said at the Moment that Doc was full of shit because he must have forgotten that he told him to tell me that Bam Bam is confirmed ) and that it made him ( Dan ) look like an ass.. He told me Doc does shit like this all the time and probably feels threatened by the WCICW and has that old school mentality of screwing with another promotion to make them look bad or to hurt them.. He said Doc probably had this planned all the time and will come through with Bam Bam last Minute just to look like the Hero.. I took Dan on his word and then told Terry that Bam Bam might not be there now because Doc Feels Threatened.. I told him not to do anything until I can get ahold of Doc and Talk this out with him.. I then called Doc each and every day, Sometimes leaving a message for about a week to try to fix this ( I heard he was in Florida at the time I was Calling ).. Finally I get a Press release sent to me by Terry that i was suppose to Distribute to my 2500 Contacts to get the word out about the show ( Including webpages, Message boards, News Groups and Newspaper and Radio Stations ).. I did some editing ( including match Mistakes and Spelling error's ) and Changed all the WCICW's into WcIcW's.. The reason I did that was because It was more eye catching and I was trying to make the press release stand out more from all the million of other press releases sent out on the net.. Well apparently in doing so I messed up the link on the website.. A few Days Later I get this e-mail from Terry

WOW, Have I got news for you. You know all those press releases that you sent out with my homepage linked to them? Well, you really screwed things up!!! If youdon'tt know what you are doing, then you should not change things! None of the links work the way that you typed them up.

The web site is:
www.djconcertproductions.com/WCICW.com

It must be that way for it to work!!!!
www.djconcertproductions.com/WcIcW.com

Not: "WcIcW". You cannot change anything after a Dot.com!!! If the link is not typed right, it does not work. I have been wondering why with all the PR that has gone out on this show, we are not getting a reasonable amount of hits on the site? Now I know why, because you screwed it up.

Sorry if I sound upset, but we are 3 weeks out from this show, I have invested money that I did not count of having to spend for fliers and Rental fees. And now I need to pay for advertising. I typed the release for you, and you went wild and changed things. I am not changing my logo to "WcIcW", WCiCW, or WcICW, I have no idea why you decided to go with that, but I can tell you this, at the moment we have 2 Pre Sold Tickets that are paid for ($20). There are still outstanding bills to Rebel for $400, which I guess I am responsible to cover? And God only knows how much this advertising is going to cost me?!?!?!? And you want to start booking for a paid show? Heck, I cannot afford a paid show if I tend to lose everything on a "FREE SHOW".

Idon'tt want things to fall apart now that we are 3 weeks from the show, but now I am starting to understand why you feel everyone is mad at you? If you want to act as a booker, then be a booker and stick to the talent, which you have done a good job with so far. But put yourself in my shoes now, if you were trying to get people to come to the site for info, and they cannot get there, wouldn't you be a little upset if someone screwed thing up on you? Heck, people think they can not even have their website up and running, is there a show, how do I find out more info? Well, lets start thinking how we are going to get 500 people to the show???
Let me know if you have any ideas? I am at the end of mine...
Terry

I Kind of got upset at that, Here I am working my ass off to help this guy out, I just spent $50 of my own money to make fliers to pass out at a wrestling event the night before and this was the Thanks i got?

Let me Clear something up that he said.. Yeah I fucked up the website.. I didn't know about that if I changed things after the .COM that it would mess shit up.. That was my mistake.. I am human and I do make Mistakes

But the Thing about not having money got me most pissed off.. 1st of all when he started helping me out with the show all I asked him to do was get sponsors, That was back in June, it was now September and he didn't get one, Not one singleOne.. I posted an e-mail on this webpage and many others asking if anyone could help out and possibly buy an add.. at the time I got Terry's Ignorant e-mail I got him $350 worth of $25 adds for the Program, all he had to do was take care of it and get the money.. I sent Terry everyones names and e-mail addresses and Even forwarded him the e-mails i got back in response.. I also wrote people that said they would buy an add and sent them Terry's E-mail address.. What more can I do.. I was told by a few of the people that they e-mailed Terry and he never replied to them about Buying ads..

So needless to say I wrote Terry Back calling him ungratefull and Saying it was his only job to get sponsors and how come he had over 3 months to get some and didn't when I got a lot in less then 2 weeks?.. I also told him that if I am such a fuck up then why doesn't he take over the rest of the show from here, it was more then 90% done anyway so it would be easy for him.. Well apparently he took me up on that offer because next thing I know I get a forwarded e-mail from Fred Rubenstien ( Head Ref of the NWA and the Nice guy who payed the Rocking Rebel the $175 for the use of his insurance for the show, a whole $75 more then what was agreed on when we said we would use his Insurance ) saying I was off the show for "Personal Reasons" .. I then got pissed and told Terry to take myself, One in a Million and my Fiancee Laura off the website because I wanted nothing to do with the show.. I did tell him though that Dirty Money still wanted to do the show so keep him on.. I also Told Mike Trash after he told me that he got Chris Candido for the show that I was not doing anything with the show any more so to send that news to Terry... Well apparently Terry told people that Mike Trash Told him that I was not doing the show so that is how that Rumore got started.. From that day forward when anyone asked me what happened I Gave them the Kayfabed Answer that I could not do the show for "Personal Reasons".. I put alot of work into that show and still wanted it to be a success so I did my best to keep people from quiting the show..I was not trying to be a dick.. Ask anyone I never once trashed Terry or the show and kept my mouth shut about what really happened.. People even asked me if they should still do the show and I told them yes because it is a good Cause.. To further my point that I was not trying to stir up any shit or hurt the show, on the DOI Message board (http://www.declarationofindependents.net) someone posted about Terry's Cancer being a work and this benefit was a fake just so Terry could get his Federation up and running again and I posted that what was said was a Lie and that it was Fucked up for someone to say.. I also continued to promote the show on Frank Talents Pro Wrestling and Pro Boxing Radio show on WNJC 1360 am (http://www.wnjc1360.com/) each and every week.. I think Frank Tapes those shows so ask him if you need proof

As for people No showing the event.. I talked to many of them, One big Star said no One contacted him to confirm him being there so he took another booking, Many of the workers said they told Terry that they will not be at the show because they were doing it as a favor to me but he continued to advertise them, One Told me he told Terry that he was not doing the show because it looked funny that the guy who the Benefit was for was running the show, and Still others told me that they got word that the show was canceled and when they wrote they got no reply ( Including one name Junior Heavyweight ).. Maybe some also didn't show because of a the same Promoter that I mentioned above that said and I quote " You are going to be surprised at what people don't show up because of your mouth"..Finally Dirty Money ( who I manage and wanted to do the show ) told me that he was told that he was Not needed at the show and not to come.. Some of the people who did the show told me that things were promised to them and when they got to the show The Rebel told them Differently Even still 2 workers told me that they told Terry that they would be late for the show but when they got there the Rocking Rebel told them he thought they were not coming so he Eliminate their matches.. I think this show was doomed from the Start in retrospect..

Also to Defend Brett Schwan of Wrestling Clothesline ( http://www.wrestlingclothesline.com) I was told by more then one person at the event that a member of WCICW Management told them that Afa Pulled Mana and some others from the show.. I told Terry from day one that Mana was doing this show unless he gets booked to do something for WxW.. I think it is Fucked up that they Blame Afa, who is well known as a nice guy in this business for the show getting messed up.. If you want some one to Blame, Blame me.. I may not have "Pulled out and left the show in Terry's Hands" like Stated but it is my fault for thinking that this show had a chance to be a success and setting up this show to begin with.. I have a question though?... After reading all of this and seeing how much hard work I put into this show, Why would I Back out on what was Basically "My Show?...

To rebut what Mana said ( and I talked to him about this after reading his comments and things are worked out )
a.) Bam Bam was confirmed by 3 different people
b.) the Dancers where Terry's Idea and like the Sponsor issue he dropped the ball
and c.) I did not drop the show in Terry's Lap, I was removed from it

I also wanted to comment about the Doc Diamond thing.. I have no issues with Doc but I think it is Fucked up that he had a Tantrum about not getting his way and Threatening to Take Volkoff home if he didn't get his way ( after not even showing up with Bam Bam ).. I would Have thought that a Fellow Cancer Survivor would act Differently but I guess I was wrong.
Finally, incase you didn't know, Apparently someone in the WCICW has a real life Bounty On MY head ( http://www.djconcertproductions.com/WCICW.html ).. Yeah Real professional and Real Mature.. I guess this is the Guy we are suppose to all feel sorry for?.. You started this and I had to come out and expose the truth.. So lets both do the Mature thing and just drop this shit and forget about it.

I Guess it really does not pay to do something nice for someone in this world - JADEN

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Gentlemen,
It's Dan O'Connell, VP of Doc Diamond's WWSA. I noticed my name posted in some of Jaden's comments on your website. Without my permission, Jaden made some strong accusations, so I just wanted to state publicly and clarify what really happened, please print this response on your website:

OK first off, Bam Bam couldn't make it. It happens. He was on Doc Diamond's last 3 WWSA shows, so it's not like Doc promised something he couldn't produce. I dare any of you who have something to say about Doc Diamond to step out from behind your keyboards, and say it to his face. Doc has Cancer, and he'll still kick your ass.

Now Jaden. In his article he mentions that me, and Doc's wife, and a "3rd" party who wants to remain nameless..Blah Blah Blah. Well first off, I never gave him permission to use my name, and neither did Doc's wife, she says she didn't even know who Jaden was until all this shit went down in the last month. So that shows what an asshole this kid is. We just fired him from WWSA a day or two before the WCICW show, because he couldn't come up with a good reason why he bailed out and dumped this whole show in Terry Barr's lap.

So now all of a sudden this big EXPOSE' piece on what I said about Doc, he's using my name and making up shit that "I SAID". I never said those things in the way he made it sound. He is just a bitter little kid, using his clout with these website/sheets to try to get back at me and Doc and turn us on each other. Why would Doc feel threatened by WCICW when Terry Barr is basically just a guy who likes wrestling and ran a show last year. Jaden made this a WCICW show and got Terry involved. Threatened??? WWSA outdrew every NJ promotion that ran on the same day as us in the years 2003 and 2004. Included are LOADED shows by some of the bigger promotions in NJ. Do the research, it's true.
Bam Bam wanted to come, but couldn't. The guy is a legend, it was a free benefit. IT HAPPENS!! So Doc feels really bad that Bam Bam can't make it, so he digs into his own pocket and brings in Nikolai Volkoff at the last minute. Doc never mentioned that it was a benefit, and paid Nikolai to come in. That's just the kind of classy guy Doc is. No one mentions that, Everyone is just so quick to jump on Doc.

It's not like Jaden did any real advertising to promote Bam Bam or anyone else for that matter. He did the only thing he can do. He did everything you can possibly do behind a keyboard. That's all he can do. He tried selling ads via email, but I know that kid didn't do any foot work or make phone calls. I know. I've been there.

Jaden, remember your Evolution Wrestling X? Well same scenario, Jaden acquired Glassboro High School, wanted to book Raven, and X-Pac, and all these names, and didn't sell one single ad, which he said he would, so I put on my suit, and I drove over an hour to meet with him to sell ads and collect from his "done deals", the kid shows up looking sloppy in jeans and sneakers, and a baseball cap, and his "done deals" laughed us out of there, all of 3 them, so I went home, and told him he was on his own, and he canceled the show.. I did it 10 weeks before he ruined me. Not 18 days like he did to Terry.

By the way, if it wasn't for Doc Diamond and me, Jaden wouldn't even have any credibility to get on these boards or any shows. No one ever heard of him until he worked for NWA/Over The Top, and then WWSA Over The Top, and plastered his name all over the internet as a NWA or WWSA sensation or whatever. While all 3 partners in NWA OTT liked and agreed on One in a Million as having a spot on the NWA OTT roster, only me and Doc wanted to give Jaden a shot. No one else ever paid Jaden to work. Ok maybe gas money.

So, it just shows you that you gotta be careful who you choose to hang around with. Cause this ain't the 1st time I've been bit in the ass. I'm sorry I let Jaden get his foot in the door.

Dan O'Connell
WWSA Vice President

Website: wwsaoverthetop.com
Phone: (609)499-4875
EMail: office@wwsaoverthetop.com

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Jaden replies to Dan's comments:

OK first off, Bam Bam couldn't make it. It happens. He was on Doc Diamond's last 3 WWSA shows, so it's not like Doc promised something he could produce. I dare any of you who have something to say about Doc Diamond to step out from behind your keyboards, and say it to his face. Doc has Cancer, and he'll still kick your ass.

Doc called me on Tuesday October 12th at 6:58 pm.. He was understandably a little pissed and had alot to tell me. He told me Bam Bam was in no condition to make the show but had planned to attend and was going to right up until the day of the show. I might also add that the last WWSA show was in June, Bam Bam was schedualed and no showed. He was on the 2 before that but missed this last one so Danny is starting off on a good foot (sarcasm ) right away in his letter isn't he?

True Danny boy didn't give me permission to use his name.. He would not be that dumb ( at least I hope not ) because he was trashing Doc and every one knows that Doc is his Meal Ticket.. The WWSA is the only Chance Dan has at being anything in this buisness and he knows it and with out this company all he would have is his Tag Team Partner Ron Carrying him like the dead weight he is

He claims that Doc's wife never heard of me until a month ago but the phone recors show I have been calling Doc's House ever since he said he would help out with the show and send a "Name" to work the main event... That was back in July.. Last month was September.. Hmm Danny's ever so Clouded Mind got another Fact Wrong?

Danny is right about one thing, He did Fire me from the WWSA, But Doc Diamond ( who just happenes to own the company ) Told me Tuesday that it was Danny that Fired me and he never went though him to do it. He said that is was all Danny and that I was a Smart Kid and he does not want to lose me

Bam Bam wanted to come, but couldn't. The guy is a legend, it was a free benefit. IT HAPPENS!! So Doc feels really bad that Bam Bam can't make it, so he digs into his own pocket and brings in Nikolai Volkoff at the last minute. Doc never mentioned that it was a benefit, and paid Nikolai to come in. That's just the kind of classy guy Doc is. No one mentions that, Everyone is just so quick to jump on Doc.

I talked to Doc in Detail until my brother had to use the phone. He told me everythign Danny Stated above, He also said he paid for the Ring Announcer.. He told me that he never once had a Temper Tantrum and only stated that the show was a Clusterfuck and he felt bad about having to Bring Volkoff to such a mess. He said that the person he said that to was Danny so who do you think started the whole "Temper Tantrum" Rumor?

Besides the Internet I was on Frank Tallents Pro Wrestling Radio show every week promoting the show ( even after I was removed from it ).. The show was also Mentions in Rasslinbeat Wrestling Column in a Local Philly News Paper ( thank you Moira).. I also passed out Fliers at a wrestling show in NJ ( well put them on cars ) to help promote the show.. I don't live in or any where nere Hamburg PA. I also do not have a car but I did the best I could to get the word out about the show considering

Ok this one is Glaring with Errors.. Dan and I started working together on the EWX because he wanted to get away from working with Doc.. Now This is the guy who said I do no led work.. I got the Building, I had to go to 2 meetings with out him there and secure the building, the Locker rooms, the Staff.. I got the Local College to provide security... What did I get from him?.. Excuses on why he could not be there.. I got incontact with a freind of mine From Hall of Hero's about sponsoring the show.. We had a Meeting planned but we had to cancel because Dan had another excuse on why he could not show up.. Then he finally shows up and we go out trying to sell adds for this proposed show.. I took him to places where I knew the owners and tried to talk them into helping us.. So Dan shows up in a suit I would not burrry an 80 year old man in that is 4 sizes too small, All wrinkled with a beard that has not been shaven in probally 2 weeks... The one comic shop owner said he would buy an add once we come back with a letter from the school because he heard they may have to Cancel the show.. Ok easy enough.. The seccond was my all Karate School.. my Sensai told us that he would b interested in helping us out but to come back next month and have a Proposal on how we plan on doing this show ( He later told me that he trust me but there was something about my "Partner" that seemed Shady and that is why he did not buy an ad that day )

Another Fact that he does not seem to rememeber is that I did not Cancel the show, He did not Cancel the show either... Glassboro High Canceled the show ( the excuse they gave was the school was under construction and it would not be done in time for the show to happen on that date )

I know this is out of Order But I wanted to wait to touch on this next Statment

As you will see, I have an except from a conversation that my self and Danny Had about Doc, I won't bore you with the whole thing, I will just show you the begining
elvinsoul1: Yo
fallenkokushi: YO!!
fallenkokushi: Sup?
fallenkokushi: get ahold of Doc Yet?
elvinsoul1: No not yet
elvinsoul1: I called him but like always his wife said he was not home. I always call but he is never home. How am I suppose to get any shit done when I can never get ahold of the guy
fallenkokushi: where did he go?
elvinsoul1: He disappears for weeks at a time. When ever you need him for anything he is not around. You can't run a business with a person that is never there
fallenkokushi: Are you watching wrestling?...
elvinsoul1: Doc is holding me back. I want to do this for a living but I will never go anywhere as Doc is involved
fallenkokushi: Is there still giogn to be a show on the 23rd
fallenkokushi: Giong*
fallenkokushi: GOING** fuck I can not type
elvinsoul1: Right now there is no show. You might as well take another booking
fallenkokushi: Thatz kewl, EWA is Running that night. Me and the 1's can work 4them..
fallenkokushi: So what does this mean for the WWSA?
fallenkokushi: Are you and Doc not patners?...
elvinsoul1: I should be running a real company. The wwsa is a joke
fallenkokushi: What will you do if the WWSA Closes Down?
elvinsoul1: I don't care. I have the school that doc had no part in. I got everything and now doc is mad because he feels left out. He does not understand that you can't be gone for weeks at a time. we almost lost it because he does not get back to anyone. Doc had nothing to do with the school. It was all me and Ron.
fallenkokushi: Awesome, Count me in when you open up, so whats the newz with the school?...
elvinsoul1: We wll use the school to run a Promotion. It won't be anything like the wwsa. Things wll be done right. I am not going to fuck this up like doc fucked up the wwsa
elvinsoul1: will

To add to Dan's Lack of Credibillity in His statements. he claimes that thw WWSA Outdrew every promoter in NJ on the days they Ran in 2003 and 2004.. Well for starters the WWSA (as the NWA Over the Top ) ran One show In Manahawkin NJ on January 25th, They drew about 100 people ( that is a Generous Estimate ) .. Now according to the Wrestling Information Archive JAPW ran a show on that Day in Bayone NJ and I have a feeling they did better then 100 fans. Now lets Fast forward all the way to 2004 On January 31st the drew 400, I can't find any show in NJ that Day So I gues they won that one.. for the next show we had to wait until May 15th they had I would say 200 Paying fans at that show, the IWF ran that same day and had over 200,Empire State Wrestling had 300.. I did the reseach and it looks like they lost that one.. Then will go to June 12th.. the only show I can find on that day was a JAPW show and they had about 100 fans, the WWSA had maybe 150 so I think they won that show but the JAPW show was far from a Blockbuster Star Laden Show and it was in the afternoon.. I wonder how long it will be before Delusional Danny starts Proclaiming that the WWSA is the #1 promotion in NJ and that they Our Draw the WWE?

By the way, if it wasn't for Doc Diamond and me, Jaden wouldn't even have any credibility to get on these boards or any shows. No one ever heard of him until he worked for NWA/Over The Top, and then WWSA Over The Top, and plastered his name all over the internet as a NWA or WWSA sensation or whatever. While all 3 partners in NWA OTT liked and agreed on One in a Million as having a spot on the NWA OTT roster, only me and Doc wanted to give Jaden a shot. No one else ever paid Jaden to work. Ok maybe gas money.

I also Find this very Funny.. For one, the Partner of NWA OTT he did not mention, Fred Rubenstien and I talk every once in a while and he is always sending me e-mails saying he likes me and that He thinks the world of me and One in a Million.. 2nd I find it even more funny that I have had not only more wrestling work in 2004 then Danny Has but also more paid work then he has worked all year

But of course Danny got caught with his pants down and opened his mouth but does not have the balls to stand behind his words.. He was afraid he was going to lose his free ride with the WWSA and his Free Money from Doc so he tried to make up some BS ( or maybe in Danny's Chemicaly Induced Mind things really did happen that way) to try and save face.. As every one can see though it is just Him blowing hot air out of his ass..

I end this letter with a plea to Ron and Doc Diamond, Ron get rid of the dead weight you have been dragging around for the past years, He talks shit about you also being unmotivated and not willing to go that extra mile and Doc, Dan O'Connell is nothing but a money drain and brings the WWSA down with his antiquated Booking and Lack of understanding, You told me all about the $7000 Cell phone Bills and other money you gave him.. Please I Implor you, Drop that Albotross and get rid off that 280 Lbs of excess Fat that the WWSA has been stuck with.. You will be better off with out that Two-Faced ass talking behind your back.. Seriously what has he ever done for you or the WWSA in a positive Manor? Send him and those God Awful Hawaian Shirt Packing

Now excuse the spelling errors and typos but I have yet to be asleep and I am tired, my spell Check is not working and my Editor ( my g/f/ ) is in bed so I am sending this out as is with out any proof reading

Dan thinks he should be running a real Federation!!!.. HA!!!.. Just what has this boy been Smoking?

I am taking a break from Wrestling, After I fulfill my comitments that I have until November I am taking some time off.. I do not need this Bull shit created because some ass does not want to admite the truth.. Infact I am thinking about quiting all together.. I have enough problems at home, I do not need more from this "Sport".. This may be Goodbye - JADEN

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I have been reading the posts on different newsgroups that have been made about the WCICW Cancer Benefit Show on Saturday, Oct. 9th, in Hamburg, PA. I am not going to get into a long letter of BS about things, I am just going to state my response to this all and when the smoke clears, let things fall where they may!!! If anyone has a person problem with me after this, my phoneline is open, just pick up your phone and call me! And if you dont have long distance calling like someone I will not mention, call me collect!!! Jaden, I welcome your call anytime, be a man!!! Oh, and if you don't have our number from the site, (610) 777-8224. If we are not home, please leave a message, I will return your call.

Okay, I had Jaden work a show for WCICW, on Nov. 29, 2003 in Shillington, PA. I had never met him before that night of the show except for a few casual IM's about the show. After he show, he had continued to IM me and chat. Then one day I get an email that was posted, "WcIcW Looking for Workers for Cancer Benefit". Needless to say, I was very curious about who was using those letters in their promotion? Upon opening the email, I see that JADEN is looking to put a show together to help raise money for my family. I was really surprised that someone would do that after all the years that I have done work for MDA, MS, Red Cross, American Cancer, American Lung Association and so many other groups. I guess this was to be my day to shine? When Jaden asked me about doing the show and could I help him, I told him I was not able to do more then make phone calls and whatever I could to try and help make the show a success. He asked me if I knew a building where we could seat about 2000 people? I told him the biggest place I know would be the Legendary Hamburg Fieldhouse, which was in my old hometown. After being at several Indy Shows, I knew it was going to take something more then just unknown wrestlers from across the Country. Jaden had workers from the west of Indiana to to the Atlantic City, NJ Shorelines, from North of Maine to the Southern Carolina's. He was looking to bring in Racing Legend Mario Andretti, Boxing greats Joe Fraizer and Daughter, Hockey players and more! So, when I talked with a friend of mine, Ms. Robyn Griggs "Another World" and "One Life To Life", she was delighted to come and hang out and do whatever she could to help make the event a success! Robyn is a personal friend of Roddy Piper (whom Robyn knows from Horror / SciFi Conventions), Randy Savage, and the Metal Maniac, and after this past Saturday in Hamburg, she has a lot more friends in the business. Robyn was the ring announcer for the Women's Title Match, and posed for pictures at intermission with the WCICW Tag Team Champions, Rockin' Rebel & Greg Matthews. Say what they want, one thing is for sure, Yes, Actress Robyn Griggs did make her appearance at WCICW. Unlike, many others that did not show up for the event for one reason or another. Some called, some emailed, and others just did not show up. Yes, it is true that Mana the Polynesian Warrior and Johnny "Bison" Bravado did indeed work the WXW Show that evening. And I must admit with Lily, they are Independent workers not under contract, so I can understand that if a "payable" job is available, they would take the money instead of working a free show. I have no problem with that at all, and I would not say that Afa tried to sabotage the show, as indeed, Samu the Headshrinker, made sure that since he was unable to make the show, due to miscommunication on Jaden's part when booking him, Samu donated 4 tickets to the WXW Show coming up in Reading at the Silo Night Club in Nov. I personally have met with Afa and his family, and have had nothing but great memories of those events. I just want to clear that up, as I would never say anything to spoil a great friendship of him or any of his workers. It is true that all four the women we had are workers of WXW, as well as Cabbie, CJ O'Doyle, J-Busta, "TDS" and others. And I would welcome the opportunity to work with WXW, Afa or Samu, in any future event as offered made to me by Samu.

Now as for inviting the "ICP". Yes, I called the "ICP" in hopes of having them show in Hamburg that night. They were booked in Philadelphia at the Electric Factory Concert Venue, on Friday, Oct. 8. They had Saturday open with their next date being in MA on the 10th. I have promoted concerts for 24 years, so the music business is nothing new to me. After purposing the idea to have a "Hell's Pit" instead of a Piper Pit, I was hoping that they would accept the idea, but I was not aware that a "Hell's Pit Tour Party" was already booked for the 9th. But I tried to get them at no expense to me. How were to going to pay for the talent you were trying to book? Also, what about the talent that showed up on Saturday and expected "paydays" because you made promises to them? How about the guys that you promised there would be return dates and paydays if the traveled here and worked this show? You did not have any money to do this show from the start, you counted on me being your push to the bigtime. Well I am sorry somewhere along the track, you missed the train.

Now, my heart goes out to Jaden who went into his pocket and spent $50 on flyers to pass out at a show? Not sure where he did this at since no one ever called from them? For a show that was to benefit me, I was the one that paid the rental fee deposit on the Hamburg Fieldhouse, paid for flyers, paid for newspaper advertsing, took money out the box office to pay for License, Ringside Doctor, PA State Athletic Commission Inspector that came to the show, the 5% Tax to the State of PA, the DJ Mike Trash that rented us his equipment to use (while his on wife, Pam, is in the hospital), misc. expenses for locker room, and etc.
Special Thanks to Doc Diamond for making the appearance of Nikolai Volkoff possible, and Fred Richards for paying the insurance premium to allow the show to continue.

Thanks so much Jaden for all your help in only making things worse!!! I could have cancelled the event when you backed out the show, but it meant so much to me to run that show, not only to try and make some money for my medical bills, but my Grandfather whom was Cheif of Police in Hamburg for over 20 years, worked every show of the WWWF in the 1960's / 1980. My grandfather had died of cancer as well, so when WCICW ran this show, it was not just for me, but I dedicated the show to him.

And just to lower myself to your level Jaden, I will air my dirty laundry here as well. The reason you pulled out the show is because you lied to so many people trying to get yourself over and make you look the hero if this show would have taken off! But when you got yourself in a pair of shoes to big for you to wear, you walked!!! I took care of all the expenses on the show except one. You still owe the Hamburg Fieldhouse a balance on the rental fee. Remember you signed the contract, no one from WCICW signed it. So when you get a letter from them about you owing a balance on the contract, don't be surprised if they take you to court. As should I for expenses I occured to bail the show out and make it something you could not. You wanted a "Two Ring Battle Royal". You were to have two rings there, yet if the boys from CCW had not brought their own ring with them, we would not have even had a ring to work in that night. Yet you were the one having a fit about CCW and The Intimidators being on the show, until I told you that CCW has an interest in running in Hamburg and you wanted me to give you their info so you could get your team booked with them? You also said that when you get your settlement, you intend to get a PA Promoters License, so you would not have to deal with Rockin' Rebel. You would show him how it is done!!! I told you I would never burn bridges with anyone that has ever helped me. What was your response? (Hmmm, Well maybe you don't, but this is wrestling!!!). Well, call it wrestling, call it sports entertainment, call it whatever you like, there is no "Real Bounty" on your head because you would not be worth the paper that the ink is printed on, but there is an open invitation for you to appear at the next WCICW event! It is time that you wake up and smell the roses. This is the real world, people do work together (even in wrestling), and if you are affraid of excepting our open invite, I do not blame you for being!!! You stirred a hornets nest, and watch yourself, for you may get stung back. You best realize you are not just playing a game here, you have really insulted a lot of people.

Jaden quotes: "Yeah Real professional and Real Mature.. I guess this is the Guy we are suppose to all feel sorry for?.. You started this and I had to come out and expose the truth.. So lets both do the Mature thing and just drop this shit and forget about it." Well, If I remember correctly, it was you that started the whole thing, it was I that bailed you out! Yeah I am sorry that your boys did not manage to get over that night, so I think it is you that owes them an explaination, instead of your crying and writting crap you call "The Truth", Yes I called it right my friend, you are from another world of reality.

My life goes on with or without wrestling. Not sure how long I have, but I make the best of every day. I try not to befriend anyone, and only make new friends along the chosen path. I hope that one day when you get close to walking your path, you to chose the right one. I will continue to watch wrestling weather at ringside or on TV, as I may be getting close to the final 10 count, but I am not out yet!!! With my friends beside me, I can only hope for the best.
Good luck to you and your soon to be new family. I wish Laura and yourself all the best with your new addition.

Oh one last thing while I vent over this entire joke of yours, you want to talk about Mature & Professional? Never once did I ever write to you or anyone else having to vent my anger and choice of words by cussing like you. Seems all you know how to do is "F****" everything! That is very professional and mature!!

Good Luck, God Bless, and Always be looking over your shoulder.
Halloween is coming.... (BOOOOOO!!!!)

Terry / WCICW
www.djconcertproductions.com/WCICW.html

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I received the following statement today from Robyn Griggs who appeared at the WCiCW event. I felt it only fair for her statement to be published. Brett

"First of all, I have to tell you, I have never met Jaden but after his postings concerning my name, I don't care to. Jaden, if your girlfriend watched both of the soaps I was on, that would be hard to believe, they aired at the same time on different networks. different years, yes, but I find it hard to believe she watched both shows... Soap fans are loyal to a show and to a network, so you are telling me she followed both NBC and ABC , shows that aired many years in the same time slot???????

Oh and Soapnet is re-airing 3 years of episodes of my work on Another World. Hope that helps.

Also, judging me on whether your girlfriend knew whom I was is rather shallow. The point was, I did do publicity for the show and guess what, I SHOWED!!!!! Where were you??? Where was all the publicity you did? I don't know what went on, but you have a lot of nerve making any reference to me when I owned up to my agreement to the show. Also, posting emails and all this stuff on both your parts is just wrong and childish, you guys need to stop acting like kids. The point is the event happened and people had fun. Hey I dont know this whole story about PRing me over the wrestlers and I don't know jaden, but I do know that promotion is promoting an event and people attending, no matter what they do. Actually who cares what anyone does for a living, we all are supposed to be supportive of these shows and not be sour.. this is for the love of wrestling, so Love it, do not try and bring your own dirty laundry in to jeopardize these guys getting into the ring. behind the scenes is called behind the scenes for a reason and any person that is a promoter or a publicity manager for real knows that putting down talent and showing emails and airing bad blood is not at all the way to go.

Jaden no hard feelings, and to both of you, stop these postings, the event happened, lets move on and plan something else and not worry, just learn from what happened. Lets not make wrestling events a sour thing to read about but a great thing to go to.

Thank you, Hope I didn't make anyone mad, i didn't mean to.

Robyn Griggs
www.Robyngriggs.net"

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